How We Work #2: Product - Joe McLean

In the second episode of the How We Work podcast, host Dominik Katz sits down with Joe McLean, Product Lead for AI Canvas at Miro.

Together, they explore the reality of building in the AI era, from the psychological shifts in engineering to the fine line between high-speed innovation and "slop." Joe shares candid insights on why the "bad version" is often your most powerful tool and how AI is fundamentally changing the solo nature of deep work.

Takeaways

• The Power of the "Bad Version": Why getting a messy first draft out is more valuable than waiting for perfection.
• The Rise of the "Slop Canon": How AI is accelerating everyone’s output, for better or worse.
• Discerning Quality: Understanding why "Good AI" and "Bad AI" outputs often look identical on the surface.
• The Loneliness of AI Coding: Navigating the shift in team dynamics when the primary collaborator is an algorithm.
• Accelerating Product Teams: How AI is removing traditional bottlenecks in the creative and development process.

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